The Two-Body Problem:
Seeking Employment for
Dual-Science-Career Couples
By Laurie McNeil and Marc Sher
Dual-Career Couples:
Laurie McNeil and Pat Wallace
Marc and Beverly Sher
June 2000
Laurie McNeil is a professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy
and the Curriculum in Applied and Materials Sciences at the University of
North Carolina at Chapel Hill. In 1997 she was Chair of the APS
Committee on the Status of Women in Physics. Both Laurie and her
husband, Pat Wallace are condensed matter physicists.
Marc Sher is a professor of Physics at the College of William and Mary,
specializing in particle theory. He is currently news editor and electronics
communication editor of “Physics and Society,” and a member of the APS
Panel on Public Affairs. His wife, Beverly Sher is a Visiting Assistant
Professor/Health Careers Advisor at William and Mary.
THE “TWO-BODY PROBLEM,” as the difficulties
faced by dual-science career couples
is jocularly known, is an increasing
problem in physics as well as in other areas of
science. The increase in recent decades in the
number of dual-career couples
has meant that more professionals
of all kinds are facing the problem
of finding two suitable jobs in
the same geographic area. The situation
has a particularly acute
effect on women in physics,
because 79% of married women
physicists have a physicist or other
scientist as spouse (compared to
18% of married male physicists).
Another difficulty that physicists
share with some other sciences
is the small size of the field.
With the exception of a few “meccas”
such as the Bay area, the
number of physics (or physicsrelated)
jobs available in a particular
place at a given time is likely
to be very low. Further difficulties
arise when the two members of a
couple are not at the same point
in their careers (receipt of Ph.D.,
end of post-doc, etc.) at the same
time, meaning that the two are
seeking positions at different levels
or at different times. This difficulty
increases as the couple's
careers advance, because higher-level positions
are scarcer than entry-level ones. If the geographic
location of the job search is based on the
opportunities available to the more senior partner,
the junior partner may not be able to find a
position appropriate to obtain the credentials
necessary for advancement later. If the junior
partner's opportunities are the determining factor,
it is difficult for the senior partner to find a
suitable position as entry-level positions are
always more numerous than senior ones.
In order to get a sense of the nature of the
problems faced by dual-science-career couples,
and the institutional responses (helpful and
detrimental) that they invoked, we conducted a
web-based survey under the auspices of the
American Physical Society's Committee on the
Status of Women in Physics. The
survey was launched in January
1998, and eventually received 632
replies. A complete account of the
survey responses, and the recommendations
we developed from
them, can be found at
http://www.physics.wm.edu/
dualcareer.html. Here we present
a brief discussion of the kind of
difficulties dual-science-career
couples face, and a sampling of
comments from the survey
respondents. These include the
kind of unhelpful responses that a
distressingly large fraction of
institutions have given when faced
with such situations.
The ideal, of course, is to find
two jobs at the same time, in the
same (desirable) location, with
each job well suited to the qualifications
of its holder. Most couples
find this ideal to be unobtainable
at some point in their careers.
They may choose to have one
member of the couple play the
role of “leading partner” and take
the best job available, thereby determining the
location in which they will settle. The “trailing
partner” then tries to find a suitable job in that
location. The choice of which partner will play
which role can be influenced by professional
seniority, research specialty (often the specialist in the more arcane area will have more limited
choices of location), preference in employment
type (academic, industrial, national lab), or personal
dynamics. The traditional pattern is for the
man to lead and the woman to trail, but this is
not the case for all couples, especially younger
couples and those in which both members are at
roughly the same stage in their careers.
Regardless of which member leads, the trailing
partner is often hard-pressed to find suitable
employment. If no job commensurate with the
trailing partner’s qualifications can be found,
s/he may end up underemployed or unemployed.
This situation has led many people, and especially
many women, to leave physics altogether.
While to a degree these problems are personal
ones that individual physicists must solve
for themselves, it is within the power of institutions
to help ease the situation or to make it
worse. In the responses to our survey, we have
collected many examples of the ways in which
potential employers can contribute to, or at least
fail to cope with, the problems of dual-career
couples. In this section, we will discuss the different
ways in which institutions can make the
problems worse. Here we discuss the different
ways in which institutions can make the problems
worse. The happier story of how some
institutions have solved the problem in particular
cases, and the description of effective strategies
for both job seekers and institutions, can be
found in the final report on the Web.
Reduced consideration for members of
dual-career couples
One form of problematic response is to give
reduced consideration to candidates who are in
a dual-career situation, perhaps with the justification
that a candidate free of such encumbrances
would be more likely to accept a potential
offer. If the candidate does not volunteer the
information that she or he has a spouse who is a
scientist, obtaining that information requires
asking questions which are forbidden by Equal
Employment Opportunity laws and guidelines.
This may render such a response legally actionable.
According to the experience of our respondents,
during the screening and interview
process, potential employers often ask questions
that are not permitted under EEO laws.
Members of academic search committees, in
particular, are often unaware of the rules governing
personal inquiries, or may be aware of
them but choose to ignore them.
“The department chair called me at
home and asked me several questions about
my marital status. He said that he knew
these were illegal questions but that he was
going to ask them anyway and I could
decline to answer them if I wanted. When
he found out I was married to a physicist,
he said there would be no opportunities for
him to be employed in the area. He also
said they now screen all candidates because
they have offered jobs many times only to
be turned down in the end because a spouse
could not find a job. A week later I called
and found out I was totally off the list. I
reported this to the dean and the search
was cancelled.”
“Though the potential employer is not
supposed to ask personal questions pertaining
to [pregnancy], I found in my experience
that questions of this sort do come
up, and the interviewee is forced to state
her position.”
Once a potential employer finds a candidate
to be desirable and contemplates making an
offer to one member of a dual-career couple,
often the employer makes assumptions about
what the candidate’s response will be rather
than allowing the couple to make their own
decision. In particular, potential employers often
assume that a woman (far more often than a
man) will refuse an offer if a suitable position is
not available for the partner.
“I was told that they had already decided
not to pursue my application because they ‘knew’ that I wouldn’t be interested in moving
since my husband wasn’t moving to a
position in the area.”
“Interview was cut short when it was discovered
that the spouse was also a scientist.”
“I was asked where my husband would
be working. It was made clear to me that if
my husband did not have a job nearby, I
would not be considered for the job.”
Nepotism and resistance to hiring the spouse
In many cases, particularly in geographic
areas where there are few employers of scientists,
the potential employer may be asked if a
position for the candidate’s partner could be
found in the same institution. Such a position
may be difficult to produce, depending on the
partner’s field and qualifications, and on the
availability of openings at the institution.
However, additional barriers may be raised even
when such a position is potentially available.
Members of the institution may feel such hires
are inappropriate in principle, regardless of the
partner’s qualifications.
“I remember in particular one senior male
faculty member telling me how hard it is to get
new professors, because so many of them had spouses who were scientists. This faculty member
said he was not about to ‘burn’ a tenure slot
just for somebody’s spouse.”
Or, the institution may generalize inappropriately
from a single experience (or even
rumor) involving the hiring of both members
of a couple.
“At my institution a manager stated that
he would not consider dual career couples in
his section because it ‘always leads to trouble”
Or, nepotism rules may be invoked to reject
such a possibility. This may occur even if the
institution does not have such rules any longer,
or if they are simply matters of administrative
policy (which could potentially be changed)
rather than legal restrictions. Whether or not
they exist, nepotism rules are invoked far more
frequently to forbid the hiring of the woman
rather than the man.
“One cited anti-nepotism rules as making
it impossible to consider both of us (the rules
hadn't existed for years, but apparently the
department chair was unaware of this fact.)”
Particularly when the trailing partner is
female, potential employers may assume that she
is less qualified, or that her ambitions are limited
enough that she will accept a position that is
beneath her qualifications (or no position at all).
“Most of them assumed that since I am a
woman, I should be satisfied with a lesser
job. They almost did not take his concerns
too seriously. (We both have Ph.D.s from the
same university with very comparable credentials.)
One of them was interviewing him
for a Asst. Prof. position and tried to set up a
Post-Doc position for me.”
“‘They suggested that I might consider
giving up my career.”
“One department chair said that trying to
find two jobs was a bad strategy and that
things worked best if one partner took the best
job available and the other stopped working.”
“We both made the short lists for several
faculty searches. In every case, we told the
committee about our situation before we
agreed to visit. In two cases, with respect to
the male being the candidate, the search
committee seemed to indicate that the twobody
problem was too complicated for them
to solve. In two cases, with respect to the
female being the candidate, the search committee
said that they were interested in solving
the issue, if needed.”
Captive spouses and insulting offers
If an institution chooses to offer positions to
both members of a couple, often one offer may
be for a permanent position and the other for a
part-time or “soft money” position. Our survey
results and APS statistics indicate that the lowerlevel
offer goes more commonly to the female
member of the couple. A promise may be made
that a full-time or tenure-track position will
become available later, but many times the
woman is not given full consideration for the
subsequent position because she is perceived to
be “captive.”
“Two extremely talented scientists. The
husband, a little ahead chronologically in his
career, has tenure at a large university. The
wife is teaching and doing research at the
same university on soft money. Despite her
glowing teaching and publication record, she
has been constantly passed over on recent
job searches. Documents secretly released to
her seem to indicate the search committee
hopes she will just stay, on her soft money: ‘after all, her husband has tenure. Why waste
a real job on her?’”
Or, she may simply be taken advantage of:
“They gave her a desk, and ultimately a
title, though no salary (although the university
takes overhead on her grants). She is forbidden
to use the department secretaries for
grant preparation, however.”
“She has been an instructor for 15 years
now, with low pay and a heavy teaching
load, and despite this she has been successful
at attracting grants and publishing papers.
She recently led a successful fight at our university
to win the right to submit grant proposals
under her own name rather than having
the chair of her department as P.I.”
“My institution has a long history of hiring
the wives of professors into soft-money
positions with no possibility of independent
research or of consideration for hiring as
tenure track faculty. Every woman who has
tenure here has either sued or threatened to
sue the institution.”
Even if offers of permanent positions are
made to both members of a couple, the salary or
start-up funds that are offered may be colored
by the perception that the couple is in a weak
bargaining position due to the dual-career situation.
While this perception may be accurate, taking
advantage of it is not a way to produce a
happy and productive pair of employees.
“Employer made an insulting and
degrading offer to my partner, which she was forced to take eventually because there were
no other options.”
“It is a very bad idea to raise this issue
BEFORE an offer is made, since all negotiating
leverage for salary and benefits would be
lost. At [three prominent universities], jobs
offered to us both as a ‘package deal’ had
miserable salaries as a result of their knowing
we wanted to stay together.”
“I was offered a lower position that I am
qualified mainly because they know that it is
difficult for a couple to get tenured positions
at other universities. In the same manner,
I believe that my salary is arbitrarily
held low because they know I won’t accept
other job offers.”
Egregious remarks
The picture of institutional response to the
dual-career situation would not be complete
without including some of egregiously inappropriate
exchanges reported by the survey’s
respondents. Even more astonishing is the recent
vintage of these remarks, which one might have
thought belonged to an earlier era in our society.
“One professor suggested to my husband
at his interview that one way to solve the
two-body problem was to divorce me — not
a very sensitive suggestion.”
“[Potential employer] told the candidate’s
spouse that they shouldn’t be working anyway.”
“One suggested that I should be available
to do ‘volunteer’ scientific work, because it
was my partner’s role to support the family.”
“I was told that I should be able to find a
lab to work in, as long as I was willing to
change fields and didn’t expect to be paid; if
I ‘needed to be paid’ I might be able to teach
introductory calculus.”
“Her last request for a raise was met
with the response that she didn’t need a
raise because her partner was well-paid as
a full professor.”
Conclusions
We have given dozens of specific quotes
from our survey respondents. A reader of these
comments might imagine that they occurred
decades ago, and are not likely to be repeated
today. However, we have analyzed the ages of
these respondents, and found that virtually all of
them are in their 30's or early 40's — these
quotes are current, and represent current institutional
practices.
How can one respond to these attitudes and
practices? To some degree, one is dealing with
societal prejudices, which will not easily be
changed. However, there were a number of positive
responses and suggestions discussed by survey
respondents, and they give some hope. As
the number of women in physics grows, these
prejudices should fade. We argue in our full
report on the survey that it is in the best interests
of institutions to change these attitudes and
practices in order to attract and retain the best
scientists. The report offers a number of suggestions
of how institutions and individuals can
respond to the situation in a positive way.
Transformations of this kind are necessary if the
number of women in physical science fields is to
increase in this century.
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